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Tarantoga
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Re: Patch Notes 08/04/2020

Post#61 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:07 pm

Nidwin wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:03 pm Good to see that WH/WE tactic properly fixed, even if I'm going to miss it in PVE, but …

I presume I'm not going to get a cookie for not abusing it in RvR?
Damn me but thanks anyway so if I feel to it I can use the tactic again now.
why is it good to see that wh/we arent viable for wb anymore? a fix could have been to set the cap at 5 or 6 targets because others aoe cap got buffed aswell oO

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Wam
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Re: Patch Notes 08/04/2020

Post#62 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:10 pm

Grunbag wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:35 pm Fix pending for WE and WH accusation / bloodlust with Bs and SR tactic .

Fix pending for Mara morale stop

Those change will be active after next server boot
mara morale stop still not working after boot fyi
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moderntimes
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Re: Patch Notes 08/04/2020

Post#63 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:14 pm

Whoever created a WE/WH thinking they were gonna wreck people in an aoe warband anyway?
It looks like a lot of people forgot the rogue archetype implemented in every mmo ever created, aka the solo ganking gameplay.

Dwanex
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Re: Patch Notes 08/04/2020

Post#64 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:15 pm

Do we have an ETA for the level up bug? When you ding while being in a SC and all of a sudden there are no abilitys on your bar... well thats kinda annoying :D

Tarantoga
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Re: Patch Notes 08/04/2020

Post#65 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:18 pm

moderntimes wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:14 pm Whoever created a WE/WH thinking they were gonna wreck people in an aoe warband anyway?
It looks like a lot of people forgot the rogue archetype implemented in every mmo ever created, aka the solo ganking gameplay.
oh yes... whoever created a we/wh and wanna participate in wb play. this class is just made for solo play in a game which "isnt made for solo gameplay"

moderntimes
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Re: Patch Notes 08/04/2020

Post#66 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:19 pm

Tarantoga wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:18 pm
moderntimes wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:14 pm Whoever created a WE/WH thinking they were gonna wreck people in an aoe warband anyway?
It looks like a lot of people forgot the rogue archetype implemented in every mmo ever created, aka the solo ganking gameplay.
oh yes... whoever created a we/wh and wanna participate in wb play. this class is just made for solo play in a game which "isnt made for solo gameplay"
You should have switched to melee dps a long time ago then, rogue is not for you.

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Stelios123
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Re: Patch Notes 08/04/2020

Post#67 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:21 pm

moderntimes wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:14 pm Whoever created a WE/WH thinking they were gonna wreck people in an aoe warband anyway?
It looks like a lot of people forgot the rogue archetype implemented in every mmo ever created, aka the solo ganking gameplay.
so WH/WE should just skip sov?

Tarantoga
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Re: Patch Notes 08/04/2020

Post#68 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:21 pm

moderntimes wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:19 pm
Tarantoga wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:18 pm
moderntimes wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:14 pm Whoever created a WE/WH thinking they were gonna wreck people in an aoe warband anyway?
It looks like a lot of people forgot the rogue archetype implemented in every mmo ever created, aka the solo ganking gameplay.
oh yes... whoever created a we/wh and wanna participate in wb play. this class is just made for solo play in a game which "isnt made for solo gameplay"
You should have switched to melee dps a long time ago then, rogue is not for you.

seems like you dont know this game at all. fyi wh/we is melee dps

ok i am out. sry for the offtopic

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kryss
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Re: Patch Notes 08/04/2020

Post#69 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:25 pm

moderntimes wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:14 pm Whoever created a WE/WH thinking they were gonna wreck people in an aoe warband anyway?
It looks like a lot of people forgot the rogue archetype implemented in every mmo ever created, aka the solo ganking gameplay.
And this clearly shows you don't have any idea about WH/WE in competitive WB endgame gameplay. WHs don't "wreck" in organized WBs (well, they surely can if played well): their main role is to prevent destro morale bombs. If their setup is right (no, dragon gun is not enough) and they are good, they can make a difference about winning or losing a city instance. Not saying that losing sweeping tactic gonna change everything (there are many others factors to be considered), but surely morale draining will get a lot worse. I will try something different and see if it works too, it will need adjustments in a competitive WB. But for many pug WB leaders, already not keen on taking WHs with them, this will be a factor. Also rogues, kings of vanilla WoW PvP, have a use in 40 ppl raids, so why can't WHs and WEs have one too?

moderntimes
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Re: Patch Notes 08/04/2020

Post#70 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:31 pm

kryss wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:25 pm
moderntimes wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:14 pm Whoever created a WE/WH thinking they were gonna wreck people in an aoe warband anyway?
It looks like a lot of people forgot the rogue archetype implemented in every mmo ever created, aka the solo ganking gameplay.
And this clearly shows you don't have any idea about WH/WE in competitive WB endgame gameplay. WHs don't "wreck" in organized WBs (well, they surely can if played well): their main role is to prevent destro morale bombs. If their setup is right (no, dragon gun is not enough) and they are good, they can make a difference about winning or losing a city instance. Not saying that losing sweeping tactic gonna change everything (there are many others factors to be considered), but surely morale draining will get a lot worse. I will try something different and see if it works too, it will need adjustments in a competitive WB. But for many pug WB leaders, already not keen on taking WHs with them, this will be a factor. Also rogues, kings of vanilla WoW PvP, have a use in 40 ppl raids, so why can't WHs and WEs have one too?
No competitive warband needed a WH/WE even before this change. Remove the WE/WH and the warband is fine, nothing crumbles. Nobody can prevent destro morale bombing if they pile up the morale tactics.
WoW PVP raid is not a thing. Rogue ganking on the other hand.

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