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Re: Patch Notes 11/05/2019

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 6:10 pm
by peterthepan3
NoRKaLKiLLa wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 5:48 pm As new weapons and gear is released they'll be assigned proper stats for their place in the path to 80, instead of previous practices of arbitrarily buffing new stuff to make it more sought after either by choice or residual values in the database from live. Opp to conq emblem down conversations will eventually have a more recognizable ratio and gear progression as a whole will adhere to a logical slope with an ever decreasing derivative as new gear is implemented and the same bis stuff you've been using for 2 years is analyzed and corrected if needed.
Fair enough, that's reassuring. I would just hate to see the RR45 weapons rendered obsolete, but I have faith in you, my man, and trust that this won't be the case.

Re: Patch Notes 11/05/2019

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 6:39 pm
by Twohandernoob
Sigh. Nerfing sc weapons after introducing new almost identical sc weapons so grind is required to get back to the power level you started at.

Having power creep is way better than that. At least it's different.

Re: Patch Notes 11/05/2019

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 6:49 pm
by Dackle
Twohandernoob wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 6:39 pm Sigh. Nerfing sc weapons after introducing new almost identical sc weapons so grind is required to get back to the power level you started at.

Having power creep is way better than that. At least it's different.
To be fair, same thing happened with Conq > Vanquisher and the game saw an increase in population. The most valuable stats were just taken from one gear set to the other, but the "grind" meant more people playing.

It's a genius way to keep a user community playing for basically the same stuff.

Re: Patch Notes 11/05/2019

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 7:05 pm
by Neil
"adjust" subjugator too, for their assigned proper stats ...

Re: Patch Notes 11/05/2019

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 7:08 pm
by Nefarian78
Dackle wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 6:49 pm It's a genius way to keep a user community playing for basically the same stuff.
Genius way except when the playerbase realizes they're working for nothing and their character isn't progressing but just getting to the same point as before.

Re: Patch Notes 11/05/2019

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 7:10 pm
by Dackle
Nefarian78 wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 7:08 pm
Dackle wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 6:49 pm It's a genius way to keep a user community playing for basically the same stuff.
Genius way except when the playerbase realizes they're working for nothing and their character isn't progressing but just getting to the same point as before.
Shhh, then don't tell anyone!

Re: Patch Notes 11/05/2019

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 7:24 pm
by NoRKaLKiLLa
The intent is a logical progression and noticable increase in stat and subsequence power level as renown ranks are gained. If a weapon that has been in game since two years ago there's a chance it was arbitrarily assigned higher stats to make it shine. A necessary correction doesn't make you less powerful, but more powerful in relation to players with objectively lower valued gear than you. Subj, gutslime and other weapons will be under review in the near future in order to properly allocate stat and subsequent power level to better scale with time invested and ease of access.

Re: Patch Notes 11/05/2019

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 7:29 pm
by Dammy095
lets look at healers, even after rr45 weapon nerf, difference between it and r61 one is 7 willpower, 2 wounds and 4 healing power, does it worth 1500 emblems grind ?

Re: Patch Notes 11/05/2019

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 7:30 pm
by Sulorie
You don't get the same point, as everyone is affected too, so relative power of bis gear players stays the same and you actually become stronger with the new gear.
This "grinding for the same gear" argument is so weak, it is surprising people still use it.

Re: Patch Notes 11/05/2019

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 7:31 pm
by NoRKaLKiLLa
Some rr45 weapons have more stats allocated to them than others. If you notice that there isn't a big difference between the 45 and 61 weapons I have some bad news for you.. that weapon is over-tuned, has had more points allocated to it than other classes weapons and will be adjusted accordingly if necessary.