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Re: Balance Discussion Forum v3

Post#111 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:23 am

drmordread wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:54 pm
simtex wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 9:38 am
Too bad most proposals turn into shitstorms with complete pugs giving their '2cents', those same people who ride the blob every evening and get farmed like tards anytime they're left outside said blob.

GL though
Speaking as a complete pug, we make up the majority of the population and always will. I am glad that we have a chance to add our 2 cents. After all it is we that actually have to play hard and we who are affected the most by even the smallest change. For unlike you elitist (to use the same word you did) "tards", we do not use a regular group to carry us and prop us pop and earn our RR for us.
>thinks playing in a group is 'carrying'
>proud to play in an unorganised manner
>thinks playing like a banga = playing hardmode

what a dur dur

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Acidic
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Re: Balance Discussion Forum v3

Post#112 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:45 am

My biggest issue with the current model is that although the moral and a few other threads on balance are slowly moving, we have no realistic way to talk balance.
Any thread in normal chat is locked as balance and no threads progress from suggestions to discussion.
Kinda of not good.
Although on the bright side the lowering of visibility in chat of the obvious has toned down the bitching

WeGotThis
Posts: 57

Re: Balance Discussion Forum v3

Post#113 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:25 am

In every Balance Thread there are the Destro whiners and the Order whiners...

How should anyone do something out of that bull****?

If you want some real balance discussions, get some distance to your realm when you text here.
By example, when you play Order and get killed by meele SH, get into it and explain your thought with some facts, otherwise just deal with it.
Same on Destro, crying about Pugkiller WL but having no idea how he performs in party and Warband...

If you want Dev's/GM's to react on a balance proposal,Just try that your post doesnt sound like mimimimimi.

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Ysaran
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Re: Balance Discussion Forum v3

Post#114 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:50 am

While I can't complain much about balance (I don't know much outside the couple of class I play) I can get why ppl are so upset. Since the opening of this thread only two proposals were rejected. From the outside it look like Devs didn't even looked at the majority of the proposal done. What is been of the weekly reviews of the balance forum?

omarxz
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Re: Balance Discussion Forum v3

Post#115 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:41 am

WeGotThis wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:25 am
In every Balance Thread there are the Destro whiners and the Order whiners...

How should anyone do something out of that bull****?

If you want some real balance discussions, get some distance to your realm when you text here.
By example, when you play Order and get killed by meele SH, get into it and explain your thought with some facts, otherwise just deal with it.
Same on Destro, crying about Pugkiller WL but having no idea how he performs in party and Warband...

If you want Dev's/GM's to react on a balance proposal,Just try that your post doesnt sound like mimimimimi.
"In every Balance Thread there are the Destro whiners and the Order whiners..." oh yeah no one should complain , its not like majority of population made of order with their F******* buff for enginner and white lion not anything like that ,or how witch elf is a joke , oh no everything is fine and they should delete forum to make everybody happen.....what ****** logic

mubbl
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Re: Balance Discussion Forum v3

Post#116 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:29 am

12(classes) with ~36 abilities and 24 tactics and 10 morals for each realm. Stacking rules, nobody realy knows cause tooltips are uncleary and no source provided for most game mechanics(in addition so many exceptions of rules). Add some ninja changes and some wierd search tools in forums...Also some dev said some time ago, the concept of these forums is letting people **** on the wall and maybe some newstyle art will happen. add Wargs lastest comments on last patch notes.
->its a extreme complex, therefor work intensive and unthankfull job.

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Xergon
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Re: Balance Discussion Forum v3

Post#117 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:59 am

mubbl wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:29 am
12(classes) with ~36 abilities and 24 tactics and 10 morals for each realm. Stacking rules, nobody realy knows cause tooltips are uncleary and no source provided for most game mechanics(in addition so many exceptions of rules). Add some ninja changes and some wierd search tools in forums...Also some dev said some time ago, the concept of these forums is letting people **** on the wall and maybe some newstyle art will happen. add Wargs lastest comments on last patch notes.
->its a extreme complex, therefor work intensive and unthankfull job.
you play one evening and u can clearly see whats working whats not, and in which situation even if all above is semi true, if u have a lil bit experience u should be able to figure out...
sadly or luckly (depends how u look on it) most players here are connected with game through lore/rping stuff so they want to play character the way they want to, ignoring facts that every class or even each spec performance worse or better depends on situation
its 2020, and ppl still forcing 2h tanks with full STR in pug WB, glasscannon healers, where one SH wiht pounce and bad gas and they have no clue whats killing them or why they cant heal, also DPS that is afraid or reckless in missjudging when who and how to attack, specially when there is no tank to guard/support them...
its been like this very often, from time to time u get some semiorginized pug WB but its nightmare for leaders to deal with all the drama and trash specs...

therefore i encourage and always been encouraging to join guilds with strong leadership so ur pugging nightmare ends and u can enjoy playing game properly and rewarding
its been shown a lot times in the past, with proper setup, with proper players and proper leadrship even outnumbered u can beat enemy...
like here:

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Ototo
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Re: Balance Discussion Forum v3

Post#118 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:00 pm

omarxz wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:41 am
WeGotThis wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:25 am
In every Balance Thread there are the Destro whiners and the Order whiners...

How should anyone do something out of that bull****?

If you want some real balance discussions, get some distance to your realm when you text here.
By example, when you play Order and get killed by meele SH, get into it and explain your thought with some facts, otherwise just deal with it.
Same on Destro, crying about Pugkiller WL but having no idea how he performs in party and Warband...

If you want Dev's/GM's to react on a balance proposal,Just try that your post doesnt sound like mimimimimi.
"In every Balance Thread there are the Destro whiners and the Order whiners..." oh yeah no one should complain , its not like majority of population made of order with their F******* buff for enginner and white lion not anything like that ,or how witch elf is a joke , oh no everything is fine and they should delete forum to make everybody happen.....what ****** logic
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madmalky2014
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Re: Balance Discussion Forum v3

Post#119 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:19 am

Dont post anything here it doesnt get listened too. Destro bias will continue while most of the development team play destro. Still wont convince me to move to destro zerg rabble. Unskilled reliant on number to win anything when numbers are near to equal they lose all the time.

Balance dont make me laugh this is the most imbalanced the game have ever been even since and every patch it gets worse. Try to think before you make changes what it is doing to the overall population.

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Ototo
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Re: Balance Discussion Forum v3

Post#120 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:01 pm

madmalky2014 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:19 am
Dont post anything here it doesnt get listened too. Destro bias will continue while most of the development team play destro. Still wont convince me to move to destro zerg rabble. Unskilled reliant on number to win anything when numbers are near to equal they lose all the time.

Balance dont make me laugh this is the most imbalanced the game have ever been even since and every patch it gets worse. Try to think before you make changes what it is doing to the overall population.
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