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Re: Order fabled inability to compete

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:54 am
by Acidic
DanielWinner wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:39 am Moving it to Off Topic.

Will keep it open a bit longer for final last words.
You can close this imo, it’s purpose is served and degenerating fast

Re: Order fabled inability to compete

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:02 am
by Luuca
Acidic wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:33 am
Luuca wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:07 am
Acidic wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:17 pm

Well I appreciate the first posters attempt to translate the post to the rfolk that have reading issues. Unfortunately by the last post is appears the mark was missed.
This post does not support Destro over orde
This post does not support unbalance
This post suggests some order buffs in replacement for bw alignment with dps output with soc including morals

We see clearly a WB stacked with bw and run properly can steam roll nearly anything but yet stacked WB of order without such bw stacking get steam rolled.
Change it up and get rid of the bw crutch so proper balance can be given and for god sake dump the min/max elitisime balance model
SO lemme get this straight....

..spam ...

So no.. N O NO NO Order WB (currently) can beat Destro.

I see. Clear now. No bias.
And yet iits real, see TUP and D&as not rocket science
So despite reality go on in your happy land, it’s a game after all or simply L2P and optimize according to the balance model, which I despise and what the post is directed at.
I like how i paraphrase EXACTLY what you are saying and you replace it in my quote with spam. telling.

Re: Order fabled inability to compete

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:36 am
by wonshot
Holy moly, finally some decent forum action. However drowning in NA players trying to be funny on page one chipping in on organized warband warfare, when their scene has been dead for half a year now is it? Followed by Wam coming in dropping knowledge and wasting alot of energy trying to convince a casual-minded private server's playerbase about what dedication looks like, well done sir but you are barking up the wrong tree I am afraid.

And then to finish off the derail, some random scenario hero is trying to lecture about bombgroups without understanding what criticalmass is.
:x
So everyone is still hugging BOs, zerging instead of looking for fights then wondering why the server cant handle it, and meanwhile balance is a shitshow for 4-5 months now, but hey atleast the mandatory WP/DoK got a shield now, that will help the critical balancing issues, right?

I mean the highest RR player on the armoy is still a well known pug warband leader known for sitting with a fully functional pugwarband with semi decent group comps on BOs how much more of an idication do you need that this is a casual server and continues to breed casual players who want the 20rp ticks to build up RR, to then have no intention of putting the renownrank and gear into any good use. Sigh!

Re: Order fabled inability to compete

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:44 am
by Nidwin
No way order can compete as long as Dharoke plays destruction.
It only takes the super pro Magus, alas Lord Dharoke the First, to shift the balance to destruction, everytime.

We, pure garbage Magus, can only dream to have such an impact and roflstomp order wb's as real super pro Magus does.

NERF MAGUS

Re: Order fabled inability to compete

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:17 am
by Nidwin
Glorian wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:09 pm
Dammy095 wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:55 am few days ago it was TUP+CNTK+BT+Invasion+Erihon+2 pug wb vs NRM + Lutz
just saying
I think I remember the day:

TUP had 12 players
Cntk 12
BT 18 with Party 3 only Dps
Invasion 18 around 7pm, 6 at 9pm.

None of the above mentioned in any form of premade setup.
Caledor (main fight that evening)
NRM was trying to focus Shrine and Lutz (wb I was in) roaming around. We constantly faced 2+ wb's and got sandwiched everytime by another 1/2 incoming order wb's when we engaged. Sadly, the unplayable lag made our attempt to defend the keep not a great and fun experience.

And for lightsake, what's that morale BW thing everyone keeps talking about as when I look at the career builder I only see "Ruin and Destruction" 1200 aoe 30ft damage.

Re: Order fabled inability to compete

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:36 am
by carlos
Acidic wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:54 am
DanielWinner wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:39 am Moving it to Off Topic.

Will keep it open a bit longer for final last words.
You can close this imo, it’s purpose is served and degenerating fast
Yeah, Wam shut the trolling down quite hard.

Edit: or this:
Mythrendir wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:02 am simply demonstrating a high degree of apathy and ignorance

Re: Order fabled inability to compete

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:14 am
by Booty
Sorcerers have a tactic that gives their aoes a knockback chance. Bright wizards have wildfire. This is fine. I quite like the class asymmetries. It makes this game interesting enough. It reminds me of LOTRO, and how monster player classes filled certain roles, but were definitely not mirrors of any class on the other side. A defiler was just not an evil version of a runekeeper.

The only way true equality will be achieved in this game is if we get some form of xrealm chat.

Re: Order fabled inability to compete

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:30 am
by Xergon
Booty wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:14 am Sorcerers have a tactic that gives their aoes a knockback chance. Bright wizards have wildfire. This is fine. I quite like the class asymmetries. It makes this game interesting enough.
Yay, free immunity, bring them on !

If you have Backdraft as MeleeBomb BW u should delete your BW ;) probably same goes to Sorceress KB tactic - you want keep your enemy in AoE Damage not to kick him away... brain please use it.

Re: Order fabled inability to compete

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:35 am
by WuRRzAg
I agree with Acidic... Orvr balanced is drastically moved when you see those organized WB stacking Bomb BWs and killing everything with Morale. This has to be changed asap in my opinion to stabilize the game. Sorc is not even close to what BW is. And i'm not saying to buff Sorc.

Re: Order fabled inability to compete

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:51 am
by DanielWinner
Xergon wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:30 am
Booty wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:14 am Sorcerers have a tactic that gives their aoes a knockback chance. Bright wizards have wildfire. This is fine. I quite like the class asymmetries. It makes this game interesting enough.
Yay, free immunity, bring them on !

If you have Backdraft as MeleeBomb BW u should delete your BW ;) probably same goes to Sorceress KB tactic - you want keep your enemy in AoE Damage not to kick him away... brain please use it.
You should have Backdraft as aoe BW for "oh sh*t" button". It saves your life in critical situations. Dead BW doesn't deal damage. Better aoe punt enemies when **** gets real than die and wait for resurrection.