@Brits

[peterthepan3]

Can't see where the chance is.

That's because you're not British, no offence! It's a matter of believing in one's country and said country's ability to deal with a problem, e.g. the EU. Britain is a very strong country - has always been - and will survive. Other countries within the EU that decided to leave probably wouldn't. Lots of people seem to think the country will suffer without the EU, yet ignore the facts mentioned in previous pages. We'll be fine.

@Toldavf: that petition will not result in any action. at best, the government may have to look at it; but they can't redo the whole referendum again. As someone said on my facebook: " Make a stupid e-petition demanding another referendum, just like the socialists did when Labour lost last year. We need to keep having referendums until we get the "right" result."

[punkindonuts]

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215 for those interested.

EU democracy summed up in one go, keep voting until the EU political elite get the correct decision they want.

[Joan]

Can't see where the chance is.

That's because you're not British, no offence! It's a matter of believing in one's country and said country's ability to deal with a problem, e.g. the EU. Britain is a very strong country - has always been - and will survive. Other countries within the EU that decided to leave probably wouldn't. Lots of people seem to think the country will suffer without the EU, yet ignore the facts mentioned in previous pages. We'll be fine.

Yeah, don't worry. No offense taken

I still don't see the EU as a problem, and i'm sure many Brits share that view -as seen in the 47.1% result-. Sure, the EU has some outdated juridical structures, sure, the EU is corrupted. The EU needs reforms. But it can't be reformed if there's no EU to reform in the first place. Just imagine what would happen if every sailor opted for leaving the ship -the fastest way- instead of trying to perform repairs. Europe's history is already one of division and bloodshed, now that we have got the chance, we should pursue unity. But I guess history repeats itself...

To sum it up, I understand your arguments and reasons, and I respect them all, but I still think that GB should've stayed in the EU. We still have a refugee crysis to solve.

[peterthepan3]

Can't see where the chance is.

That's because you're not British, no offence! It's a matter of believing in one's country and said country's ability to deal with a problem, e.g. the EU. Britain is a very strong country - has always been - and will survive. Other countries within the EU that decided to leave probably wouldn't. Lots of people seem to think the country will suffer without the EU, yet ignore the facts mentioned in previous pages. We'll be fine.

Yeah, don't worry. No offense taken

I still don't see the EU as a problem, and i'm sure many Brits share that view -as seen in the 47.1% result-. Sure, the EU has some outdated juridical structures, sure, the EU is corrupted. The EU needs reforms. But it can't be reformed if there's no EU to reform in the first place. Just imagine what would happen if every sailor opted for leaving the ship -the fastest way- instead of trying to perform repairs. Europe's history is already one of division and bloodshed, now that we have got the chance, we should pursue unity. But I guess history repeats itself...

To sum it up, I understand your arguments and reasons, and I respect them all, but I still think that GB should've stayed in the EU. We still have a refugee crysis to solve.

This is true, but Britain is already very populated and there is a lot of strain on our resources as it is. As harsh as it sounds, there must be drawn a line between sympathy and reality. We have thousands of unemployed people in our country as it is that require aid just as much.

Btw leaving the EU doesn't mean we don't want unity. It's like being in a group of friends, marrying one of them, divorcing, but still remaining friends afterwards.

[Joan]

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This is true, but Britain is already very populated and there is a lot of strain on our resources as it is. As harsh as it sounds, there must be drawn a line between sympathy and reality. We have thousands of unemployed people in our country as it is that require aid just as much.

Btw leaving the EU doesn't mean we don't want unity. It's like being in a group of friends, marrying one of them, divorcing, but still remaining friends afterwards.[/quote]

The same can be said about France, Germany, Spain, Italy , Portugal, Greece, etc...every country in the EU right now is facing some kind of problem -varies between the countries-. Drawing a line between sympathy and reality doesn't justify a divorce imho. Actually, i'm sure said countries (can only really speak for Spain) have taken many difficult decisions prioritizing reality over sympathy. In Spain, for example, since the financia crisis started the average salaries have gone down like a 30%, and VAT taxes went up to 21%. That's a lot. And no, Europe's southern countries aren't doomed to financially collapse, as I've read an argument for leave somewhere that states that. Actually, while the aid provided by the EU has been very considerable, most of the work to get back on our feet has been done by us. And it's giving it's fruits (in Spain's case at least, i'm sure the same goes for Italy, not so sure about Portugal / Greece).

That being said, an associate of an organization is never looked at with the same eyes as a member of it, as harsh as it may sound.

[Zanilos]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCghi2rVaWY

[peterthepan3]

BBC are renowned for their unbiased documentaries and predictions. /lul

Just worth noting that yesterday's economic woes have been pretty much turned on their heads, so I would take any 'warnings' or predictions given by the BBC/ITV with a pinch of salt.

[TenTonHammer]

So to just confirm the major driving force behind this was the swell of immigrants/refugees from the middle east?

[Joan]

On a sidenote, how are things going there? Pretty heated up I guess? Many local media, especially the news, are saying the UK's society is now highly divided. Obviously i'm not believing that, but want to know anyways

[peterthepan3]

Business as usual in London, at least. Don't believe what the media hype train wants you to believe =P