Frustrating SCs against premade groups

[Fishineus]

Would it not be better to split queues for pug and premades? It's absolutley frustrating to play 10 games in a row against the same premades, without even standing a chance to win. I heard alot of ppl complaining about this in chat and tbh I'm about to quit this Game soon just because of this, since I play this game mostly for SCs and every day there is a time where you just can't queue because some premades are playing.

[Lion1986]

Premades exists in both rvr and scenario. Ppl like to play organized game. Make premade yourself too or adapt or quit. Your choice. You cannot blame players because they got differrent mentality from random zergers.
For the same context we should abolish rvr too because sometimes some guilds make premade 24 man wbs and zerg zones no?

[Fishineus]

The topic is for SCs not for RvR. The idea of a SC in my opinion is to have a smaller and more ballanced fight with same numbers of players and classes. Also I dont say there should not be premade gameplay but just split the both so its less frustrating for players and have better and more fun games.
Also i already played in a premade group myself and even there its not fun to run over a pug group and then waiting the SC to end since enemies went afk.

[Lion1986]

In my humble opinion you keep blaming premades in favor of brainless pugs. Rvr got ruined already for that mentality and splitting premade queues with randoms will make scenarios dead once more . I personally run premades in weekends for faster wins and fast weekly points. Saying premades are bad because some players prefeer approach an aspect of the game in a studied way is simply ridiculous.

[JohnnyWayne]

In SCs the match maker already tries to match Premades vs Premades. It causes longer wait times for full premades, which I consider to be fine.

Personally, I'd like to have incentives for people to group up, instead of going solo. E.g. improved losing rewards, so that losing does not hit as hard when you win the lottery and you get some sweaties with bis gear.

The match maker then would still try to match premades and premades, but you'd get better rewards if they lose as an incentive to form up and compete.