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Scottx125
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[Suggestion] WP Wrath/Grace Distance Closer.

Post#1 » Mon May 30, 2022 10:22 am

Wrath is in an okay place at the moment. It's not the best DPS but it has good utility in group play. However the main issue that is holding wrath back is the lack of a distance closer with a target, especially when wrath is mostly ST focused. I'm not sure exactly how this'd be done. A leaping WP doesn't seem right :D . My idea was something to do with the career resource, as with Wrath you use it primarily with Divine Assault. Maybe have an activatable ability like charge. Maybe call it "Righteous Charge" increasing movement speed by X% for Xs ending when you use another ability. Obviously Shield and 2H Hammer use only. Maybe you could have it drain RF as a channel to give it some AoE damage as you charge into combat swinging your hammer around like a madman. What do you guys think?
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Re: [Suggestion] WP Wrath/Grace Distance Closer.

Post#2 » Mon May 30, 2022 11:26 am

Sigmars Freedom = (requires 2h) your faith turns all harming and slowing effects away from you and your group and granting them immunitys from snares and knockdowns for 10 sec while increasing movement speed for 15%

Leaps for a warriorpriest would be a little off, charge makes more sense, but rather give a small groupwide buff. that would be cool. "2h" Wp should buff the group, dmg is okay allready

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Re: [Suggestion] WP Wrath/Grace Distance Closer.

Post#3 » Mon May 30, 2022 11:46 am

2h WP needs judgement back to 15 ap and gaining 15 RF. Make Judgement snare 25% chance to snare for 3 seconds instead of 100% chance to snare for 2 sec. Also they need at least 1 skill (sigmars radiance) that is melee heal but uses Ap. Cap the healing from it to 500 when using 2h.

Those alone would help alot but imo also Make Sigmar's Shield doing same amount of dmg to opponent that you are healed for. Gaining 5 rf per dmg and losing 10 rf per heal. Both can only trigger every 0,5 seconds.
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Re: [Suggestion] WP Wrath/Grace Distance Closer.

Post#4 » Mon May 30, 2022 1:07 pm

Unstoppable Wrath > Flee + AP Pot. RR points with Quick Escape is good too.

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Re: [Suggestion] WP Wrath/Grace Distance Closer.

Post#5 » Mon May 30, 2022 5:15 pm

A gap closer was alwas needed if you remove sigmar radiance from 2h. But they wont do nothing.

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Re: [Suggestion] WP Wrath/Grace Distance Closer.

Post#6 » Mon May 30, 2022 6:11 pm

CyunUnderis wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 1:07 pm Unstoppable Wrath > Flee + AP Pot. RR points with Quick Escape is good too.

You are welcome !
Not exactly a fix when other Melee DPS have a distance closer outside of flee.
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Re: [Suggestion] WP Wrath/Grace Distance Closer.

Post#7 » Mon May 30, 2022 6:15 pm

Whyumadbro wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 11:26 am Sigmars Freedom = (requires 2h) your faith turns all harming and slowing effects away from you and your group and granting them immunitys from snares and knockdowns for 10 sec while increasing movement speed for 15%

Leaps for a warriorpriest would be a little off, charge makes more sense, but rather give a small groupwide buff. that would be cool. "2h" Wp should buff the group, dmg is okay allready
I'd say Grace should give buffs, Wrath should have a charge that damages. Both Shield and Hammer spec should have a closer as both require getting into melee.
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Re: [Suggestion] WP Wrath/Grace Distance Closer.

Post#8 » Tue May 31, 2022 1:06 pm

Just mirror DoK auras ; problem solved.

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Re: [Suggestion] WP Wrath/Grace Distance Closer.

Post#9 » Tue May 31, 2022 1:59 pm

Whyumadbro wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 11:26 am Sigmars Freedom = (requires 2h) your faith turns all harming and slowing effects away from you and your group and granting them immunitys from snares and knockdowns for 10 sec while increasing movement speed for 15%
Sounds insanely op, if we gonna give a gap closer to 2h WP then give it to BO as well
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Re: [Suggestion] WP Wrath/Grace Distance Closer.

Post#10 » Tue May 31, 2022 2:19 pm

diegomess wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 1:59 pm
Whyumadbro wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 11:26 am Sigmars Freedom = (requires 2h) your faith turns all harming and slowing effects away from you and your group and granting them immunitys from snares and knockdowns for 10 sec while increasing movement speed for 15%
Sounds insanely op, if we gonna give a gap closer to 2h WP then give it to BO as well
That would be insanely OP. 2h WP need's Sigmar's Radiance or at least DS to use AP not RF. Judgment back to 15ap cast 15rf return.(this change never made sense)Judgement also have 25% to snare for 30% /3seconds. SR would heal party for max 500 but because it uses Ap and gives RF back this is needed imo. SS should do same amount of dmg to your target as you or def target get heals, 0.5sec ICD. Change Grace Prayer to match Covenant of Vitality. These would be enough to make 2h much better without making them OP.
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