2H Choppa and Slayer ideas

[Asherdoom]

If the bleed can't be removed that could be a good solution but -50% is too much for this low dmg ability. 15~20% would be better.

you compensate the initial damage loss with the fact that bleed will not be removed /dispeled and will ignore armor (same concept of feral druids dps in wow wotlk basically)

[Orgruk]

you compensate the initial damage loss with the fact that bleed will not be removed /dispeled and will ignore armor (same concept of feral druids dps in wow wotlk basically)

This way it sounds good.

[Wdova]

how about make the aoe spec of both slayers and choppas "bleed based"? For example choppa lotsa chopping damage reduced by 50% but add a bleeding over 10 seconds to whoever is hitted by such ability stacking up to 4 times. (same for slayer ofc being mirror classes) In that way you "ramp up" bleed damage and create pressure over time.

But If You want use Flury/Lotsa choppin, at full potential in warband You slot tacfic to hit 24 targets insted of 3, but deal 20% less damage. You can slot jagged edge tactic to spread the dots.

[Bowldancer]

I play Slayer exclusively 2H as I did on live till 100. (I don't have sufficient playtime on my 40 2H Choppa).

I think we should keep it simple.
There are two main issues in my humble opinion:
(1) You loose 1 tactic slot just to use a 2H weapon. That is rather simple to fix - e.g. give the two respective tactics a secondary effect.
(2) Lack of a proper finisher (Deathblow/ Weaklin' Killa are obvious candidates). There are several ways how to do it : 30% treatment, auto crit, armor bypass ... I would prefer the first one.

I also would love to see 2H weapons get a more useful bonus instead of 10% block-strikethrough - like Armor penetration. I am aware this has a global effect as it also effects other classes.

Holding Grudges/ Pent Up Rage were really good ideas. I find they still feel a bit clunky and they could use some adjustments with stacks/%.

Power through/ Wot Rules? need a very strong secondary effect. There is no sufficient return for giving up so much survivability.

[oaliaen]

Lets be real in here...2h Sl/CH need different aspect of changes, cause if you give armor pen to a parry/block bypass it will be broken asf.. Devs need to be very careful on the changes and pls dont giv the same bonus to both classes.

[Asherdoom]

simply make those 2 specs more "bleed"based. that way ws is meaningless and they can focus full strenght while having the disadvantage of slower attack speed

[Whyumadbro]

I play Slayer exclusively 2H as I did on live till 100. (I don't have sufficient playtime on my 40 2H Choppa).

I think we should keep it simple.
There are two main issues in my humble opinion:
(1) You loose 1 tactic slot just to use a 2H weapon. That is rather simple to fix - e.g. give the two respective tactics a secondary effect.
(2) Lack of a proper finisher (Deathblow/ Weaklin' Killa are obvious candidates). There are several ways how to do it : 30% treatment, auto crit, armor bypass ... I would prefer the first one.

I also would love to see 2H weapons get a more useful bonus instead of 10% block-strikethrough - like Armor penetration. I am aware this has a global effect as it also effects other classes.

Holding Grudges/ Pent Up Rage were really good ideas. I find they still feel a bit clunky and they could use some adjustments with stacks/%.

Power through/ Wot Rules? need a very strong secondary effect. There is no sufficient return for giving up so much survivability.

This is truly one of the best idea i´ve read!