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Re: [Buff Suggestion] Some ideas to improve the quality of IB's in larger scale content.
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:19 pm
by Onigokko0101
oaliaen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:55 pm
You guys know that if they're going to buff IB , they have to buff their Destro mirror class too right ?
I mean thats fine, tbh IB and BG both have the same issue and thats a lack of good group utlity. BO/SM/Chosen/KotBS all bring good group buffs and utility which is why people want them so much more.
Re: [Buff Suggestion] Some ideas to improve the quality of IB's in larger scale content.
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:49 pm
by Fey
I think a list of the IB changes thus far would be helpful for this discussion. An additional list of the BG changes for comparison would be even better.
Any forum try-hards here who can compile such a list? I think it would clarify the devs approach to this particular class balance. IB/BG shines in small-scale and I have a hunch that's what they're aiming for.
Of course end-game content is WB heavy, but there are plenty of small-scale fights. Does every class now need a spec tree designed for aoe/WB play? Maybe this would be for the best; I honestly don't know.
Re: [Buff Suggestion] Some ideas to improve the quality of IB's in larger scale content.
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:13 am
by ashton007
Definitely need to have rising anger passive and not a tactic slot imo.
Re: [Buff Suggestion] Some ideas to improve the quality of IB's in larger scale content.
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:28 pm
by teiloh
IB is quite good and worth a slot, especially if they're good players and focus on a few MVPs. Improvements could be made to thematic fit for abilities and fun factor, though.
Re: [Buff Suggestion] Some ideas to improve the quality of IB's in larger scale content.
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:02 pm
by Dageca
here is a good discussion we had a coupe of months ago
viewtopic.php?f=74&t=38077
Re: [Buff Suggestion] Some ideas to improve the quality of IB's in larger scale content.
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:34 am
by Ysaran
teiloh wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:28 pm
Improvements could be made to thematic fit for abilities and fun factor, though.
Can you make some examples? I would like to hear more about this idea
Re: [Buff Suggestion] Some ideas to improve the quality of IB's in larger scale content.
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:26 pm
by teiloh
Ysaran wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:34 am
teiloh wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:28 pm
Improvements could be made to thematic fit for abilities and fun factor, though.
Can you make some examples? I would like to hear more about this idea
Hm well, Cave-In used to be a 5s KD for example. Maybe 4s at high grudge could be a good compromise, considering Destro has more and better KDs all around. The original argument for nerfing Cave-In decades ago was that it was the longest lasting KD, but that's not true anymore. Maybe the %armor debuff could also be boosted by a small amount depending on performance.
As for fun factor I just want to see Ironbreakers be launched like cannonballs.
Re: [Buff Suggestion] Some ideas to improve the quality of IB's in larger scale content.
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:44 am
by Aethilmar
Make "Cave Win" great again.
Seriously, that seems reasonable.
Re: [Buff Suggestion] Some ideas to improve the quality of IB's in larger scale content.
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:41 am
by kmark101
Make Grudge Born Fury grudge levels increase armor penetration instead of crit chance, by the same amount as of the crit chance increases now.
There are 5-6 other threads from the last 12 months with lots of amazing suggestions, ideas, some fun/lore friendly change suggestions, some pure number cosmetics, some mechanic tweaks. Hopefully one day some of them could be implemented.