Your assumption is 100% based upon that im an order player.... when i only play destroRapzel wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:20 pmAnd you think 25% healdebuff non stackingcarlos wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:22 pmWould be great if the bias wouldn't shine through so bright... because leaving out that destro got incoming heal debuff on chosen while order got outgoing is pretty much the only thing that have to be said about that.Rapzel wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:57 pm
From a WB perspective.
Wind block is gone. RP is slowly and steadily climbing ahead of zealot in utility.
Marauder damage is in line with WL when it comes to AoE, has some nice debuffs and utility but lacks mobility.
SH Vs. SW is a wash where one is melee the other is ranged.
Choppa was weaker than Slayer, last change made choppa into a meme, utterly useless career atm.
KotBS out-classes chosen in every department except when it comes to damage output.
SM has more utility than BO atm making SM better.
IB is a bit better than BG atm in wbs, at least when it comes to SnB specs. (Ap and buffs mainly)
BW out-classes sorc in WBs easily.
Magi do more damage than Engis, but neither of the careers are prio one in any wbs tbh, engi instead brings a little bit more utility (cannon smash/keg/corp debuff) but neither career is over the top, both have their own strengths. The strength is in the hands of the player not career.
WE/WH, WE wins in any group play IMHO.
WP/DoK WP is the stronger healer, DoK has M2 cleanse and better auras (Utility). Don't think there's a huge imbalance between the careers rarely see people whine about why is WP>DoK or other way around except when it comes to DPS.
Shaman/AM, shaman easier to use utility and better survivability, AM more heal and the better debuff. Both are needed for puddle. AM 0.5 cast increaser is also really strong. Shaman might have the edge though because survivability and easier to use morale pump. Quite sad to see the careers as healers almost die once again because of the morale nerf, but it is what it is.
Does destro have a wider array of careers that are great in 6 man? Yes I would say destro have more overtuned careers for small scale than order atm.
WB? Order smashes every thing atm, you don't think there's a reason why Altdorf was at 5* for almost a week?
Destro has more melee and used to have better "WB melee" (nothing came close to slayer but that was the only really functional order melee dps as well).
As destro "melee ball" (can't play this way on destro anyway because LUL slayers) keeps getting nerfed, ranged will need to take their spots but the issue is, destro doesn't have the "ranged Slayer" to counter orders better "WB ranged".
We're in month 6 of almost constant order zerg to IC, it's one of the longest zergs this server has seen. (Destro zerg time has been increased from 2 hrs to 5 hrs a day though).
Three forts active yesterday with 0 wins for destro, and there was quite a few destro premades actually trying.
With the change to choppa I hope the next career to get gutted is engi, because even though Magus is stronger, you see so many more engis than magi, and it just makes as much sense as nerfing choppa and not touching Slayers.
The old myth about order having higher flat dmd output is very few who still believe in, while having incoming heal debuff, more and better cc, self pump and earlier usable morale drain is too much.
When one faction got self pump without even have to actually participating in the actual fight (except the obvious, to get "into combat"), i don't think that anyone sane would argue the differ but i'm sure i will be proven wrong in this regard.
and a wounds debuff makes up for vigilance, block, crit for group, aoe snare and increased healing that does stack?
You're among the select few that think chosen is better than KotBS in that case.
Close bond? Or is summoning pet too hard for you?
I know no one runs it because it's bad but that's not the tactics fault it's the fact that morale bomb got nerfed and loner is now the build for WB lion, get into 2020.
Game was full of mSH before morale nerf now there's a handful, what do you think happened?
But good job providing proof of my bias by saying mSH self pump is OP and that type of self pump is only available to destro.
Bout as smart as IF I would call you out on order bias because WL has pet and mara doesn't.
Oh and WL has out going healdebuff mSH zero healdebuffs, must make WL much more OP than mSH with your logic.
EDIT: also claiming that absolute best class in the game, Black Orc, is inferior to SM says alot