Change Broad Severing/Sweeping Razor to not require target.

[Zxul]

Currently a we/wh are the only mdps without a spammable aoe which doesn't requires a target in a 5 ft range, so if they join wb they are mostly limited to spamming Throwing Dagger/Snap Shot for 20 dmg a pop. Even tanks have some sort of 25-30 ft range abilities with a short cd- we/wh are the only true melee classes in War, unable to perform until they get into 5 ft of the opponent.

The way Broad Severing/Sweeping Razor we/wh tactics work is to change Slice/Razor Strike so in addition to main target in 5 ft range, they also hit additional two targets in 25 ft range. Problem is, the initial target in 5 ft range is still required, which in most of mass rvr situations, as a light armor classes, isn't likely to happen.

The suggestion is to change the tactics, so that initial 5 ft target won't be required- with tactics slotted Slice/Razor Strike will just hit 3 targets in 25 ft range, so the total dmg remains same as today.

To balance the extra range provided, change the tactics so as long as they are slotted, Slice/Razor Strike will no longer build class mechanic (Frenzies/Accusations). In other words, if we/wh only spam cone aoe, they won't be able to use finishers.

[Koha]

What ?
You lost me at, no combo points. Better leave it as it is then.
No combo if you don't hit anything is mandatory for obvious OPness.

Other option would be : keep the 5ft range and give a combo point per hit. Risk <> Reward sounds fair to me.

[wargrimnir]

But we don't particularly want them relegated to spamming AOE, they're much better used for three other Manatikik-approved purposes. I know this comes as a shock, as we're finally breaking our seal of silence on the long requested "giv wh/we aoe pls" suggestion.

[Manatikik]

But we don't particularly want them relegated to spamming AOE, they're much better used for a dozen other purposes. I know this comes as a shock, as we're finally breaking our seal of silence on the long requested "giv wh/we aoe pls" suggestion.

Okay, i want to hear the DOZEN now. Like 3? I can buy, but a dozen; must be playing mine wrong.

[Sieffert]

Wargrimnir do you even play the game? WH/WE are the only classes the that have almost no aoe. They are in such a terrible state right now.

[wargrimnir]

Okay, i want to hear the DOZEN now. Like 3? I can buy, but a dozen; must be playing mine wrong.

That's fair, a dozen was hyperbolic, and I can't stand when people do that during discussions to make a point. I've updated my comment.

[Manatikik]

Okay, i want to hear the DOZEN now. Like 3? I can buy, but a dozen; must be playing mine wrong.

That's fair, a dozen was hyperbolic, and I can't stand when people do that during discussions to make a point. I've updated my comment.

Lol'd at the edit a lot

[Fey]

At 2 posts I'd refrain from calling out a developer for any reason.
Do you even play the game?

[agemennon675]

WH and WE + SW dont have spammable aoe, unfortunately non-target requiring kind of aoe is king in this game; be it in RvR, most scs and ofc city.

[Arcrival]

If you make it that sweeping will hit three targets and give 3 accusations I might use it in some situation in a WB or large sc to increase execution spam. Is having one aoe going to do it for you? I agree with war on this one get aoe out of your head.
I will go more extreme and suggest all aoe damage get reduced and capped at 9-12 targets max and all WH/WE get increase to base crit and melee power or offensive stats. Yeah blow me up!