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sighy
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Re: [Suggestion] Chop Fasta!

Post#21 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:55 am

Hmm this is a lot to digest.

Giving Choppa a conceptually broken ability, which effectively removes multiple defensive statss from the game isn't really a good idea i'd say.(neither was giving it to the Slayer /shrug)

As far as giving the CD reducer to the WE i'd say it's a well intended change, which could work to a degree like the broad severing did before it was fixed regardless of the state being intended it woked to a point, however it doesn't really address their big fundamental problems really, where their percieved identity conflicts with the overall game direction.

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madrocks
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Re: [Suggestion] Chop Fasta!

Post#22 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:09 am

Stop this choppa hate. Just because you get pulled when you run away like chicken from a fox.

Imagine Choppa gets nerfed and Destro starts playing Magus bombing and rift.
Wanna see how much you going to cry and elaborate nonsense balance topics.
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Re: [Suggestion] Chop Fasta!

Post#23 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:13 am

madrocks wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:09 am Stop this choppa hate. Just because you get pulled when you run away like chicken from a fox.

Imagine Choppa gets nerfed and Destro starts playing Magus bombing and rift.
Wanna see how much you going to cry and elaborate nonsense balance topics.
I don't see any Choppa hate here.
This thread is about "Chop Fasta!" not "Git to da Choppa", and moving this utility to WH/WE, while compensating it with MORE damage.

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carlos
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Re: [Suggestion] Chop Fasta!

Post#24 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:14 am

Foofmonger wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:39 pm
M0rw47h wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:06 am Image

I'd say it's time to:
  • Mirror "Chop Fasta!" on both Witch Hunter and Witch Elf;
  • Replace "Chop Fasta!" with new ability, could be somekind of buff consuming rage like Rampage does for +% damage, or simply just Rampage mirror.
Why?
  • Choppa isn't supposed to be utility mDPS to begin with, but top dps mDPS;
  • More utility for both WH/WE, should make them more desirable for warbands, it also should help with more flexibility in building more balanced warbands or groups on both sides.
I like this a lot, it's simple, it's effective and, it's balanced. It gives a purpose to WH/WE in wbs, it balances the Choppa better to be a mirror to the slayer, and it fixes on of the issues in overall balance (destro having 2 group CD reducers compared to orders 1).

I think Rampage mirror is the easiest way. Then the major difference between Choppa/Slayer is GTTC vs ID, which has it's pros and cons as it should be.

Love it, great job.
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Gurf
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Re: [Suggestion] Chop Fasta!

Post#25 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:27 pm

Yeah, might as well Give Choppa stealth also, also increase it to heavy armour

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Orgruk
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Re: [Suggestion] Chop Fasta!

Post#26 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:46 pm

Gurf wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:27 pm Yeah, might as well Give Choppa stealth also, also increase it to heavy armour
That sounds fair to me :D
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My Choppa/Slayer proposals : Better Rage > GTDC replacement > Balance

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oaliaen
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Re: [Suggestion] Chop Fasta!

Post#27 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:32 pm

As a main Choppa for 4 years straight and playing Chosen now..thumbs up for the idea.
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gurtuk
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Re: [Suggestion] Chop Fasta!

Post#28 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:23 am

Destro has been getting a steady flow of nerfs lately, classes are constantly being tweaked. I read through all of this and it's not a horrible idea but I also don't think it'll ever happen. Slayers have their advantages and choppas have their own. Also trust me it's not like this hasn't been discussed before.
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ravezaar
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Re: [Suggestion] Chop Fasta!

Post#29 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:22 am

Why should Choppa get a Slayer kill and Slayer not get one in return ? Wasnt shatter limbs enough ? we didnt get any back from giving that to SH.
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sighy
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Re: [Suggestion] Chop Fasta!

Post#30 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:25 pm

ravezaar wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:22 am Why should Choppa get a Slayer kill and Slayer not get one in return ? Wasnt shatter limbs enough ? we didnt get any back from giving that to SH.
Because this thread is about elevating two bottom tier dps classes, with a major utility skill from choppas so they are gonna need something major, in return. (Assuming it happens)

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