Re: Corrections to PvP in a PvP game
Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 3:22 am
sovereign gear is meant to take a long time to get, everyone's at the same disadvantage
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I disagree with dropping end he currency from player in RvR but....
Are you sure? Playing classes like SW, where you are 100% useless in that content, but you are forced to do it along many months just to get gear isnt a bit unfair? Like its right now, if you arent meta you wont get spot on any organised wb. If you arent meta but can play the content, well, its up to you if you get fun or not failing with pugs, but for the classes who are full useless is just a pain of wastefull hours, and they are forced to play that if they want to be at any point on the same spot that are the people who already have that gear.
I will tell you one thing since you mentioned SW. There's very very few, I mean a handful on Order who are able to fill a full WB when City is coming and this only happens usually if City is Altdorf 8pm-10pm. If you think there's full 24man WBs running around getting ready with full BWs, SLs, WLs and WPs, I'm going on a limp here and will say that's just not feasible. You aren't useless, afaik your melee spec has good single target burst which means they're very good on a working assist train. Last two Cities I've gone with a 6man (KotBS,SM, x2WL, WP and my AM) and a 12 man where our guildie invited whoever was online for a 2/2/2 WB, disregarding composition entirely. We won both because we stumbled upon Destro PuGs, not the mythical 2/2/2 godly WBs Destro mains keep blabbering about.Ackiul wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 4:18 am Are you sure? Playing classes like SW, where you are 100% useless in that content, but you are forced to do it along many months just to get gear isnt a bit unfair? Like its right now, if you arent meta you wont get spot on any organised wb. If you arent meta but can play the content, well, its up to you if you get fun or not failing with pugs, but for the classes who are full useless is just a pain of wastefull hours, and they are forced to play that if they want to be at any point on the same spot that are the people who already have that gear.
Worth a thought that it's extremely unfair and random for everyone, not just you. Believe me, I've heard our top damage slayer complaining why he's 23rd and me getting a gold bag on the other hand doing nothing but morale pump. It's a hassle for everyone and the devs know it and have probably read the complaints a million times by now.
About six months ago, you collected ideas for new scenarios, a lot of ideas were given from the players, let's see what came of it. first came the pve sc, which completely failed. but tell me who and why intended to create a barrier between Order and Destro? Naturally, nobody is interested in just killing mobs without the ability to kill a player. that is, this sc could have worked if that idiotic barrier had not been introduced. Then the sc with dragons was introduced; it turned out to be relatively successful. Well, it’s not at all clear why we chose a long winded way in the ranked scenarios? again "elitits" lobby?)Yaliskah wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 9:19 pmLet start to compare what is comparable. Size of the team, abilities of the team, finished project vs work in progress (cause, again, no, all this thing is not based on original server sources, not a single line).
I'm gonna be very clear. Things come when they come. When this data will be well anchored in all minds, we will have taken a big step forward. Ofc, it wont happen. Never (however it should be a fairly simple update ...)
Not i/we/the team don't care about players concerns on the contrary, just it seems you are looking for an immediate solution to your instant concern. It doesn't work like this. It can't. For the record, we are all players. But maybe you consider our player experience as inconsistent.
You see the weekly patchnote? Each line is hours of work of someone, where someone can , how someone can. Point is they are working on their own agenda, it is the least they deserve according the fortune they are not paid for. (the same old song you deliberately prefer to ignore, because your instant matter is the only one who should be considered as the priority).
You feel "stressed"? Take a break, or join us roll up your sleeves and work, and see what "stressed" means, when you will read how the hours you wasted to make a baby move are instantly ignored and forgotten, because it is not YOUR CONCERN.
If you cant wait, if your patience and your frustration has reached his short limits, if you missed all the progress and the CRAZY amount of work who have been done all those last years, if you want something engraved and polished there are plenty of other commercial free games, not in beta, not in alpha, not made by a bunch of stupids full of bad faith who haven't "understood" the "essence" of your concerns.
So no; your are not "stressed". You are frustrated. As we all are.
So you are quoting me.Alfa1986 wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 8:51 am About six months ago, you collected ideas for new scenarios, a lot of ideas were given from the players, let's see what came of it. first came the pve sc, which completely failed. but tell me who and why intended to create a barrier between Order and Destro? Naturally, nobody is interested in just killing mobs without the ability to kill a player. that is, this sc could have worked if that idiotic barrier had not been introduced. Then the sc with dragons was introduced; it turned out to be relatively successful. Well, it’s not at all clear why we chose a long winded way in the ranked scenarios? again "elitits" lobby?)
I became interested in who plays them at all and even created a survey on the forum, it turned out that only 30% of community are interested in this type of content, while 15% are ready to play often, and 15% with some frequency (about 100 votes).
why am I writing this? oh yes, if I keep moving bricks from one place to another all the time, the work will be done tremendously but the house will not be built. if I make the same mistakes all the time, the result will be the same.
Regards.
6 months is too long? For you it is. For someone who have few hours a week to work on it is not.Things come when they come
There are litteraly hundreds of propositions. What do you expects exactly? That each of them will be done following precisely each word of the proposition? Ofc, it is not possible. Plus a proposition is not a plan, even some are more detailled than some other. A proposition is a proposition. Some are very interesting and doable, some are not. Some are time consuming in term of realisation, and some are just irreallistic.You see the weekly patchnote? Each line is hours of work of someone, where someone can , how someone can. Point is they are working on their own agenda, it is the least they deserve according the fortune they are not paid for.