Suggestion: Cut stealth duration by 50%

[Shogun4138]

Wait, wait, I got this one.

Because RoR is a group game not a solo game you should be in a group because this is a group game and grouping is the way because this is a group game we don't care about solo because this is a group game group group group group marching up and down again!

So if its a group game and everyone should be grouped, why do we need stealth at all? Take away stealth and leave just the instant stealth ability. They will be running with a group and wont need to wander around the map stealthed, but still have the instant stealth for the stealth synergy. I do not actually want this, but by your broken logic its reasonable.

I have a feeling non stealthers farm you.

[vanbuinen77]

Joined: Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:59 am

Yup your opinion doesnt matter.

[Martok]

So if its a group game and everyone should be grouped, why do we need stealth at all?

Humor. It is a difficult concept. It is not logical.

[Sanctific]

Jeez, what are you guys discussing...stealth duration, damage in combination with stealth and bla bla bla...

A skilled, knowledgeable WE/WH will simply adapt to these style-influencing factors (as in, gameplay style).

Moreover, all those WHs/WEs can be outplayed by literally any class (well, 1 exception per faction is BW/Sorc but meh...an exception only proves the rule)

The f-en REAL problem is the ability of these stealthy guys & gals to reset any small scale fight at will & at ease, meaning a WE/WH would simply never die in 1v1 environment if they decide so (and be mindful of the dots ofc, which would affect the start point of the reset sequence). THAT is the problem and one of such kind, which simply cant be outplayed if a skilled, exped WE/WH doesnt let you.

[culland]

I have a feeling non stealthers farm you.

How is that different from the rest of your 'you died' arguments?

[culland]

Jeez, what are you guys discussing...stealth duration, damage in combination with stealth and bla bla bla...

A skilled, knowledgeable WE/WH will simply adapt to these style-influencing factors (as in, gameplay style).

Moreover, all those WHs/WEs can be outplayed by literally any class (well, 1 exception per faction is BW/Sorc but meh...an exception only proves the rule)

The f-en REAL problem is the ability of these stealthy guys & gals to reset any small scale fight at will & at ease, meaning a WE/WH would simply never die in 1v1 environment if they decide so (and be mindful of the dots ofc, which would affect the start point of the reset sequence). THAT is the problem and one of such kind, which simply cant be outplayed if a skilled, exped WE/WH doesnt let you.

I would argue duration is also an issue, but yes the second point to the original post as about this very thing.

[Sanctific]

Jeez, what are you guys discussing...stealth duration, damage in combination with stealth and bla bla bla...

A skilled, knowledgeable WE/WH will simply adapt to these style-influencing factors (as in, gameplay style).

Moreover, all those WHs/WEs can be outplayed by literally any class (well, 1 exception per faction is BW/Sorc but meh...an exception only proves the rule)

The f-en REAL problem is the ability of these stealthy guys & gals to reset any small scale fight at will & at ease, meaning a WE/WH would simply never die in 1v1 environment if they decide so (and be mindful of the dots ofc, which would affect the start point of the reset sequence). THAT is the problem and one of such kind, which simply cant be outplayed if a skilled, exped WE/WH doesnt let you.

I would argue duration is also an issue, but yes the second point to the original post as about this very thing.

You and I - we label things as an "issue" in a different manner it seems, still on the basis of their impact, but we consider an "issue" different levels of impact.

Whilst I'll refrain from talking what may be your perception of an impact severety - I'll mention whats mine.

For me - stealth duration may as well be infinite, i dont give a flying continental f and i barely care that I wont ever be able to be the fight initiator in that case (let them rat around in their stealth, whatever). Yeah, its a constant threat then, yeah it multiplies the risk factor significantly...yet still, whatever, as long as stealthy blokes & ladies can be outplayed in a fight - whatever.

An "issue" for me - is something which can't be outplayed if one faces a knowledgeable/exped/skilled (all combined in fact) WE/WH.
Capability for an at-will fight reset with a near-guaranteed success ("near" coz at times even the best players out there may make super noobish mistakes & may be forced to swallow that pill against being overconfident) - that cant be outplayed, and something which realistically has no counter-action, not even in rock-paper-scissors sense, but in fn GENERAL - well now thats an issue for me.