I hope its a bug.
https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/item/1848
https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/item/1885
Same weapon same proc, somehow order is weaker.
Same subjugator weapon but destro side is stonger
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- Florian90210
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Re: Same subjugator weapon but destro side is stonger
You comparing heal and dps class weapons?
Re: Same subjugator weapon but destro side is stonger
Comparing the exact same weapon with the exact same proc with the exatc same kind of stast but some how the order one is -20% weaker.
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nocturnalguest
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Re: Same subjugator weapon but destro side is stonger
Lmao, hello chatgpt, nice job done
Vibe-based itemization (c) at its finest hahahaha
On a serious note, as current system is highly abusable best strategy is the same as with fashionhammer items - keep it secret. Adapt, overcome and find broken items, use them and dominate. Only this will make them do something cause else this stuff will be here with us for years, mark my word.
Vibe-based itemization (c) at its finest hahahaha
On a serious note, as current system is highly abusable best strategy is the same as with fashionhammer items - keep it secret. Adapt, overcome and find broken items, use them and dominate. Only this will make them do something cause else this stuff will be here with us for years, mark my word.
Re: Same subjugator weapon but destro side is stonger
There will be an assessed difference in proc tiers between Quickening and Clarity. Quickening will be Tier A, Clarity eiher Tier B or C so it has more raw stats.SuperStar wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2026 6:07 amComparing the exact same weapon with the exact same proc with the exatc same kind of stast but some how the order one is -20% weaker.
- kleinbuchstabe
- Posts: 163
Re: Same subjugator weapon but destro side is stonger
SuperStar wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2026 6:07 am
Comparing the exact same weapon with the exact same proc with the exatc same kind of stast but some how the order one is -20% weaker.
You didnt do that.
You are comparing a heal weapon with a dps weapon here... from different classes and archetypes. its neither the same weapon, nor the same proc...
If you compare the heal staffs and dps staffs seperated from each other with their counterpart, you will see that they are the same.
Last edited by kleinbuchstabe on Tue Apr 07, 2026 8:55 am, edited 2 times in total.
Re: Same subjugator weapon but destro side is stonger
You can call it healer staff but its not.
Its another bug because both subjugator weapon for rp has crit heal. But iit doesnt matter it ro convert them.
So you said Quickenig VI is farm more superior than Clarity VI?
Quickening is on being hit… on ideal circumstenses no incoming hit
Clarity can proc on any ability.
If the not the same lvl imo clarity is stronger.
Or order deserve less stat?
Or the healers deserve less stat?
Would be great if we can see all the proc with dmg type and internal cooldown and TIER.
Its another bug because both subjugator weapon for rp has crit heal. But iit doesnt matter it ro convert them.
So you said Quickenig VI is farm more superior than Clarity VI?
Quickening is on being hit… on ideal circumstenses no incoming hit
Clarity can proc on any ability.
If the not the same lvl imo clarity is stronger.
Or order deserve less stat?
Or the healers deserve less stat?
Would be great if we can see all the proc with dmg type and internal cooldown and TIER.
- kleinbuchstabe
- Posts: 163
Re: Same subjugator weapon but destro side is stonger
What part of "You are comparing a heal weapon with a dps weapon" you didnt get?
They are the same on both sides. Instead of comparing a RP heal staff with a Magus dps staff, better check AM and Shaman Staff. They have the same amount of statpoints like the RP heal staff, and the same proc.
yes, DPS staff has 20 more stat points than the healer staff. Thats a class internal thing and could have balancing reasons. But it doenst make healers more weak than dps classes, cause since they are different classes, you cant compare them, it is "apples and oranges". So what you are trying to say here is just wrong.
They are the same on both sides. Instead of comparing a RP heal staff with a Magus dps staff, better check AM and Shaman Staff. They have the same amount of statpoints like the RP heal staff, and the same proc.
yes, DPS staff has 20 more stat points than the healer staff. Thats a class internal thing and could have balancing reasons. But it doenst make healers more weak than dps classes, cause since they are different classes, you cant compare them, it is "apples and oranges". So what you are trying to say here is just wrong.
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