WL Nerf

[Mortgrimm]

u got slapped by wl 2 many times...ego issues...just a 200 same recycled post after last wl nerf ...stop crying l2p and enjoy the game

I have wl, and these days i play order. Also i dont really remember a wl killed me. Last time i played toughness shammy and only warband can kill me.

So why don´t u start a topic for nerfing toughness shamy? Sounds more important as u survive almost a full warband alone. Doesn´t feel right, does it?

[SuperStar]

u got slapped by wl 2 many times...ego issues...just a 200 same recycled post after last wl nerf ...stop crying l2p and enjoy the game

I have wl, and these days i play order. Also i dont really remember a wl killed me. Last time i played toughness shammy and only warband can kill me.

So why don´t u start a topic for nerfing toughness shamy? Sounds more important as u survive almost a full warband alone. Doesn´t feel right, does it?

Very good question!
And i have a very good amswer.

Full def toughness “dps” shamy cant kill anybody only the madmens who try to catch him while m1 on them.

I love the def spec i love the regen, also i love the glass cannon builds.

I and more important most of us dont like the
zero risk hight reward build. These builds coz the problem and the fustration over the years.

Def toughnes shamy is a low risk, low reward gameplay. Nothing wrong with it if the def wl and def witchelf would have the same time to kill it would be fair and fun and most of us would be very happy about it.

The problem the def welf and def wl maybe riks less than a def shamy but get a very high reward very hight burst and sustain dmg with zero offensive stat.


Ps: on the live there was a legendary IB djole i think.

Full def regen IB usually afked near destro wc alone. Almost immortal but he only can kill the total newbie players who hitted them half an hour and didnt noticed the reflect dmg.
Low risk low reward big fun. Nothing wrong about it.

[Amakusa]

u got slapped by wl 2 many times...ego issues...just a 200 same recycled post after last wl nerf ...stop crying l2p and enjoy the game

I have wl, and these days i play order. Also i dont really remember a wl killed me. Last time i played toughness shammy and only warband can kill me.

So why don´t u start a topic for nerfing toughness shamy? Sounds more important as u survive almost a full warband alone. Doesn´t feel right, does it?

Nerf SuperStar pls, only warband can kill him!

[Ruin]

You are right thx. Its 230 with the weapon. I think its still huge with zero offensive stat it can be 4600/10 sec with 0 srt 0 crit

where did you get that numbers again? your game understaing is off i think.
the skill does not proc every 0.5sec. Its based of the pet auto attack spead + global CD.

[SuperStar]

You are right thx. Its 230 with the weapon. I think its still huge with zero offensive stat it can be 4600/10 sec with 0 srt 0 crit

where did you get that numbers again? your game understaing is off i think.
the skill does not proc every 0.5sec. Its based of the pet auto attack spead + global CD.

Here:
https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/ability/list
Leonine frenzy
I put the str zero and put a 2 handed weapont dps 80 damage
And the dmage number up there in the ability description show 230 dmg and can tigger with once every half sec.

I dont know the what can be the max pet AA speed. And what can be the theroiticly maximum.

But 230 is too high from a pet whos owner has zero str or any imvestment into offensive stat

[Ruin]

ok so to claryfie 1thing the 0.5 sec restriction was added so that abilities like coordinated strike could not proc 2x leonine frenzy.

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in terms of pet AA i think its same as WL weapon spead so from 2.7s up

claryfication seems the pet have its own AA spead, not shown by .getstats

[SuperStar]

ok so to claryfie 1thing the 0.5 sec restriction was added so that abilities like coordinated strike could not proc 2x leonine frenzy.
in terms of pet AA i think its same as WL weapon spead so from 2.7s up

My problem this dmg is very high from a pet
Idk the potecially max under ideal curciumtenses
But its a pet the owner hasnt got any offense stat.
This is while the ppl feel its unfair.

Its a really zero risk high reward situation. The actual player the wl just assisting from far to his pet.

Its coz a lot of fustration for years or decade.

Now the Leonine Frenzy dmg formula
150 base dmg + 1,5 * dmage bonus + 1*weapon dmage.

And can happen every half sec.

This is very high.

I suggest:

50 based dmg + 2* dmage bonus +O* weapon dmg

Can happen every 1 sec or 2. And can crit.

High risk high reward invest to offensive and the pet can do dmg.

But send the op pet while the wl is regening far away from the fight with 600+ toughness es 4k armor is not fair not cool

[Ruin]

leonine frenzy formula with owner having 0 str:
Damage: 150 Physical (base: 150, stats: 0, weapon: 0)
since its phisical dmg, armor mitigation is affecting it, so with most classes runing with 70%+ mitigation the dmg would be around 50 dmg.
i dont know haw/if toughess affects it thou.

[Mortgrimm]

Man, just stop. It starts getting annoying.
"This is too high dmg, this ... that ..." for every class. The pet still has strange behavior and dies way too fast if u don´t manage it. Pet got nerfed already ...
WL is still strong, yes. But only cause other dps are too weak.

[SuperStar]

leonine frenzy formula with owner having 0 str:
Damage: 150 Physical (base: 150, stats: 0, weapon: 0)
since its phisical dmg, armor mitigation is affecting it, so with most classes runing with 70%+ mitigation the dmg would be around 50 dmg.
i dont know haw/if toughess affects it thou.

Toughness wont effect at all because is base dmg if you check the ability viewer the weapon damage is counting, i can check in the game when i will be home.

Wl has a pretty strong undeffendable 1600 armorbreak.

I didnt say this abiliy should not do dmg.
I said its comes from a full def regen wl’ pet..
What is absurd. This is why most of us feel unfair.

The new dmg formula what i suggest make this ability high dmg but only if the wl atleat invest on offensive stats. Its still a pwt so in my world the pet should assist the player. And not the oet should be the main damage dealer.