So why don´t u start a topic for nerfing toughness shamy? Sounds more important as u survive almost a full warband alone. Doesn´t feel right, does it?SuperStar wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 4:58 amI have wl, and these days i play order. Also i dont really remember a wl killed me. Last time i played toughness shammy and only warband can kill me.Badrenaline wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 11:08 pm u got slapped by wl 2 many times...ego issues...just a 200 same recycled post after last wl nerf ...stop crying l2p and enjoy the game
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Re: WL Nerf
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Re: WL Nerf
Mortgrimm wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 7:43 amSo why don´t u start a topic for nerfing toughness shamy? Sounds more important as u survive almost a full warband alone. Doesn´t feel right, does it?SuperStar wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 4:58 amI have wl, and these days i play order. Also i dont really remember a wl killed me. Last time i played toughness shammy and only warband can kill me.Badrenaline wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 11:08 pm u got slapped by wl 2 many times...ego issues...just a 200 same recycled post after last wl nerf ...stop crying l2p and enjoy the game
Very good question!
And i have a very good amswer.
Full def toughness “dps” shamy cant kill anybody only the madmens who try to catch him while m1 on them.
I love the def spec i love the regen, also i love the glass cannon builds.
I and more important most of us dont like the
zero risk hight reward build. These builds coz the problem and the fustration over the years.
Def toughnes shamy is a low risk, low reward gameplay. Nothing wrong with it if the def wl and def witchelf would have the same time to kill it would be fair and fun and most of us would be very happy about it.
The problem the def welf and def wl maybe riks less than a def shamy but get a very high reward very hight burst and sustain dmg with zero offensive stat.
Ps: on the live there was a legendary IB djole i think.
Full def regen IB usually afked near destro wc alone. Almost immortal but he only can kill the total newbie players who hitted them half an hour and didnt noticed the reflect dmg.
Low risk low reward big fun. Nothing wrong about it.
Re: WL Nerf
Nerf SuperStar pls, only warband can kill him!Mortgrimm wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 7:43 amSo why don´t u start a topic for nerfing toughness shamy? Sounds more important as u survive almost a full warband alone. Doesn´t feel right, does it?SuperStar wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 4:58 amI have wl, and these days i play order. Also i dont really remember a wl killed me. Last time i played toughness shammy and only warband can kill me.Badrenaline wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 11:08 pm u got slapped by wl 2 many times...ego issues...just a 200 same recycled post after last wl nerf ...stop crying l2p and enjoy the game
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Re: WL Nerf
where did you get that numbers again? your game understaing is off i think.SuperStar wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 10:51 pm
You are right thx. Its 230 with the weapon. I think its still huge with zero offensive stat it can be 4600/10 sec with 0 srt 0 crit
the skill does not proc every 0.5sec. Its based of the pet auto attack spead + global CD.
Re: WL Nerf
Here:Ruin wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 11:28 amwhere did you get that numbers again? your game understaing is off i think.SuperStar wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 10:51 pm
You are right thx. Its 230 with the weapon. I think its still huge with zero offensive stat it can be 4600/10 sec with 0 srt 0 crit
the skill does not proc every 0.5sec. Its based of the pet auto attack spead + global CD.
https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/ability/list
Leonine frenzy
I put the str zero and put a 2 handed weapont dps 80 damage
And the dmage number up there in the ability description show 230 dmg and can tigger with once every half sec.
I dont know the what can be the max pet AA speed. And what can be the theroiticly maximum.
But 230 is too high from a pet whos owner has zero str or any imvestment into offensive stat
Re: WL Nerf
ok so to claryfie 1thing the 0.5 sec restriction was added so that abilities like coordinated strike could not proc 2x leonine frenzy.
claryfication seems the pet have its own AA spead, not shown by .getstats
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in terms of pet AA i think its same as WL weapon spead so from 2.7s upRe: WL Nerf
My problem this dmg is very high from a petRuin wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 11:52 am ok so to claryfie 1thing the 0.5 sec restriction was added so that abilities like coordinated strike could not proc 2x leonine frenzy.
in terms of pet AA i think its same as WL weapon spead so from 2.7s up
Idk the potecially max under ideal curciumtenses
But its a pet the owner hasnt got any offense stat.
This is while the ppl feel its unfair.
Its a really zero risk high reward situation. The actual player the wl just assisting from far to his pet.
Its coz a lot of fustration for years or decade.



