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Absorb-what is it and why am I seeing it so much?

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Nameless
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Re: Absorb-what is it and why am I seeing it so much?

Post#11 » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:48 pm

On live you got toughness reduction then absorb base non crit dmg.

The problem with absorbs are that they do not scale at all with stats so with escalating damage from more rr and better gear they become weaker and weaker.

Still some are quite free and still usefull aka rp/zealot proc absorb from direct healing.

Imo willpower (that not scale with healing any good) should increase bubble potency so wp will be more usefull
Mostly harmless

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Re: Absorb-what is it and why am I seeing it so much?

Post#12 » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:57 pm

Use, Tzeench's Grip and avoid Ritual of Superiority. I tried a build with that ritual and the cookie cutter Alchemy and Dark Rites spec is better.
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Re: Absorb-what is it and why am I seeing it so much?

Post#13 » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:39 pm

Absorb is still after toughness on RoR. It has to be as toughness is factored in before the primary stat multiplier when calculating attack damage. Yes it would be nice if the absorb procs had some small contribution from Willpower to help them scale.

I haven't tested crits vs absorb yet to see whether the crit damage is calculated first and then absorbed or if the crit damage is based on what didn't get absorbed.
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Ysaran
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Re: Absorb-what is it and why am I seeing it so much?

Post#14 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:10 am

juhalanz wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:50 am
Manatikik wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:41 am

Absorbs cannot be crit.
wow, didn't know that !

Do you mean that while i've a abs shield up i'm "immune" to crits?
yes

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Likeaboss
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Re: Absorb-what is it and why am I seeing it so much?

Post#15 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:48 am

juhalanz wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:50 am
Manatikik wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:41 am

Absorbs cannot be crit.
wow, didn't know that !

Do you mean that while i've a abs shield up i'm "immune" to crits?
Yes that's why a good timed Absorb shiel can pretty much negate a BW/Sorc rotation...

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juhalanz
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Re: Absorb-what is it and why am I seeing it so much?

Post#16 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:05 am

Likeaboss wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:48 am
juhalanz wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:50 am
Manatikik wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:41 am

Absorbs cannot be crit.
wow, didn't know that !

Do you mean that while i've a abs shield up i'm "immune" to crits?
Yes that's why a good timed Absorb shiel can pretty much negate a BW/Sorc rotation...
that's quite helpful and open the way to some good counters for the bursts at least. thank you!

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Vayra
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Re: Absorb-what is it and why am I seeing it so much?

Post#17 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:10 am

juhalanz wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:38 am
corc0vado wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:21 am
a 500 absorb shield will protect you for 500 damage. BUT keep in mind, all absorbs are before mitigation!
Yes armor/resist/tough are not taken into account.

but what about initiative/chance to be crit?
Unless there's been a change from live I've not noticed, toughness is considered for Absorbs.
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Re: Absorb-what is it and why am I seeing it so much?

Post#18 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:55 pm

Fey wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:57 pm
Use, Tzeench's Grip and avoid Ritual of Superiority. I tried a build with that ritual and the cookie cutter Alchemy and Dark Rites spec is better.
Ritual of Superiority seems pretty nice to me.

In a RvR context (full AoE damage & heal), you have a 500 absorb shield that proc every 2/2.5 second (depends on the frequency of damage received).

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Ysaran
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Re: Absorb-what is it and why am I seeing it so much?

Post#19 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:57 pm

Vayra wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:10 am
juhalanz wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:38 am
corc0vado wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:21 am
a 500 absorb shield will protect you for 500 damage. BUT keep in mind, all absorbs are before mitigation!
Yes armor/resist/tough are not taken into account.

but what about initiative/chance to be crit?
Unless there's been a change from live I've not noticed, toughness is considered for Absorbs.
also this should be true^

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Re: Absorb-what is it and why am I seeing it so much?

Post#20 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:57 pm

Great info, thank you all for sharing. Do abilities that are labeled as unblockable damage bypass absorb?

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