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Re: Guilty Soul - Damage on proc

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:24 pm
by Toldavf
Bozzax wrote:A small question and mebbe off topic
Spoiler:
Now when it is more reliable?

Will this trigger on muliple with the use of smite spam/target cycling for a bunch of free (no gcd) self hots?

(Sorc AV was nerfed to the ground with a CD because of the multiple lifetap hots ticking providing real non fluff heals)
A legitimate concern I think. A DPS healer is pretty tough to start with so while this will increase the damage perhaps the heal portion of the tactic should be looked at separately?

Re: Guilty Soul - Damage on proc

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:47 pm
by Penril
Same as with Shadow Warrior thread: Time for theorycrafting is over. Go out there and TEST this change before posting here again.

Re: Guilty Soul - Damage on proc

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:09 am
by grendel1892
I just tried it. it no longer procs on crits from Soulfire. More useless now than it was before imo. But it doesn't refresh. ofc it wasn't refreshing for me before so I didn't understand the thrust of this in the first place. but it did have a weird little stutter where it seemed the second and third ticks would proc a little late.

Re: Guilty Soul - Damage on proc

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:52 am
by nailinthehead
Well, it's supposed to proc on direct damage and sf is spirit so guess it works as intended. Small quantity of wrath dmg abilities is different matter.

Re: Guilty Soul - Damage on proc

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:37 am
by grendel1892
Torquemadra wrote:It hasnt proc'd off soulfire for many, many months and wasnt supposed to.
It's been awhile since I tested it. I wasn't aware this had changed. :cry:

Re: Guilty Soul - Damage on proc

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:38 pm
by peterthepan3
grendel1892 wrote:I just tried it. it no longer procs on crits from Soulfire. More useless now than it was before imo. But it doesn't refresh. ofc it wasn't refreshing for me before so I didn't understand the thrust of this in the first place. but it did have a weird little stutter where it seemed the second and third ticks would proc a little late.
If it wasn't refreshing for you before, that's probably because you had marginally low levels of crit.

Once you start hitting BIS gear, and gain more crit, it actually got worse due to constant refreshing often resulting in dealing no/little damage due to no initial tick.

Re: Guilty Soul - Damage on proc

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:17 pm
by grendel1892
I have BiS gear, running 26% crit. it never refreshed for me. I only used it for PvE Farming though. I have tested it and I never once saw it refresh. but I have gotten two heals from it after a mob has died and the effect was still on them. It was also nice, because if you shifted your friendly target around enough you could get multiple GS running against the same enemy target. but that doesn't work anymore.

Re: Guilty Soul - Damage on proc

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:14 pm
by Penril
Time to lock.