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by chokeanutsman
Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:59 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?
Replies: 53
Views: 10519

Re: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?

Silence > DPS > Knockdown > DPS. Wow do you even play this game or are you just trolling? Do you know silence and knockdown share the SAME immunity right? Get out of T1 before posting, kthxbye. Okay, so change the knockdown into a pull, it should somewhat be chainable but I doubt WL will need 2 CCs...
by chokeanutsman
Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?
Replies: 53
Views: 10519

Re: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?

I appreciate you proving me right that Order is superior in 1v1s though because Shaman can do nothing but "kite away" and give the point to an AM in an SC such as Thunder Valley because they "can't cleanse hexes" and that you can't prove that Shaman can beat AM unless Shaman had...
by chokeanutsman
Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:52 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?
Replies: 53
Views: 10519

Re: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?

On a side note, nobody cares about your 1vs1 stories. Actually this is what would happen in an actually Shaman vs. AM/WL Scenario. This statement of yours (Nobody cares about your 1v1 stories) isn't really the counter argument to "Should Shaman just give the point away in Thunder Valley to an ...
by chokeanutsman
Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:39 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?
Replies: 53
Views: 10519

Re: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?

I do care about 1v1 stories. Despite WAR is that sort of party-dependent rock-paper-scissors mmorpg, I 1) do believe there is an universal-kit class that meet my criteria 2) can't rely on being involved into premades and constant groups, because I don't like to build hierarchic relations; but I do ...
by chokeanutsman
Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:14 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?
Replies: 53
Views: 10519

Re: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?

Shaman doesn't die to AM, when you just kite away. Shaman can kill WL, despite having a hard fight, if the WL is good. In most cases, the player with better potions wins. All of these realistically "stalemate builds" that require you to build tanky aren't good enough and doesn't really ma...
by chokeanutsman
Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:25 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?
Replies: 53
Views: 10519

Re: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?

Skip the burden of proof and show videos that show that Destro can 1 up Order's 1v1 classes with Destro's 1v1 classes. Much easier that way so we can get this over with asap. P.S No need to be passive aggressive, I haven't started with insults DUyS8NJx2LU WL Kills 1:57 5:24 8.00 Not boasting, but w...
by chokeanutsman
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:45 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?
Replies: 53
Views: 10519

Re: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?

So WL is weak vs. BG (Volgograd) and WE (Youloose) (Tanks and stealth classes can duel on both sides, sure), sure. But Squig is weak vs. the same thing except it won't have a pet to back it up once it is stunned. Order is still objectively superior in 1v1s. WL almost kills Volgograd in one of his BG...
by chokeanutsman
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:12 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?
Replies: 53
Views: 10519

Re: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?

So. AM being able to cleanse Shaman DOTS but Shaman can't, and WL pet having a superior more reliable pet at least in SCs than SH, common sense isn't solid proof? And I was warranted an insult (What are you 13?) for that? :x SH similar to WL LOL aren't SH pets basically non-existent? When a WL is st...
by chokeanutsman
Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:13 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?
Replies: 53
Views: 10519

Re: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?

Skip the burden of proof and show videos that show that Destro can 1 up Order's 1v1 classes with Destro's 1v1 classes. Much easier that way so we can get this over with asap.

P.S No need to be passive aggressive, I haven't started with insults
by chokeanutsman
Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:02 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?
Replies: 53
Views: 10519

Re: [Beginner's Question] All-sufficient and self-reliant?

Self-sufficient + Easy Solo Roam + Easy SCs that are garbage in design = Order Funny way to spell destro right there. I'm open to being proved wrong, but I need solid proof such as videos. I don't think Destro is superior to 1v1s because they don't have WL. IF there is a destro class that can relia...