Return of Reckoning

Sorcs are far superior, end of story.

Sorc can get -360 to -720 spirit (Magus + Tactic), their primary damage, AT RANGE, from Magus. Max Ele debuff for Order is 260ish and requires a Knight to be in melee range. This applies to several key abilities (SS/Cascade/Gloomburst) where BW equivalents ...

And its not even close

1. RoF/detonate 50% radius increase (BW) vs surging pain/infernal wave 33% radius/range increase (Sorc)

For those who forgot elementary school math, increasing radius by a factor increases the area by the factor squared. With this tactic, RoF get 125% more area than PoS ...

I think there are other things here that Sorc gets that I would want on BW. For example, extra damage on Sear, or Infernal Wave - but there has to be differences between the classes, or we're just talking exact mirrors and that isn;t what this game is.

I think to be more productive we would need ...

So BW has more raw damage, but like someone already said sorcs aren't bad. I wouldn't say BWs are way better. A lot of the comparisons you make about sorc tactics make me think you don't play sorc that much or aren't as competent as you think you are if you do play one.

There was some truth to ...

I don't understand your point here. Self morale pump is one of the biggest things for BW in RvR.

Both classes have the same self morale pump. Not sure why you even brought it about since I am talking about class DIFFERENCES

the way people always been complaining about "bw morale drop ...

you cannot nerf order's best dps class (it props them up as a realm) or you will create massive ripple effects ... true it is better raw dmg, doesn't make sorcs bad though... you have to think big picture.

people who want to nerf classes are silly... you want them to buff the unloved classes ...

You forgot morale self pump

Hand of Ruin and Withering Heat is used in burst combo as a finisher since first damage tick is instant (in case of BW it synergises with your Corp debuff tactic, while Nova is elemental).
You can even cast it for 2s and interrupt with Nova/ID for extra burst ...

You forgot morale self pump

Hand of Ruin and Withering Heat is used in burst combo as a finisher since first damage tick is instant (in case of BW it synergises with your Corp debuff tactic, while Nova is elemental).
You can even cast it for 2s and interrupt with Nova/ID for extra burst without ...

Sorc got m2 morale dump just like BW have, which they didnt have earlier so they already got buffed.


There's a reason why I didn't list the skills and tactics they had that are equal, because it would be pointless. Just because it got buffed doesn't mean it can't be buffed more. Try another ...

And its not even close

1. RoF/detonate 50% radius increase (BW) vs surging pain/infernal wave 33% radius/range increase (Sorc)

For those who forgot elementary school math, increasing radius by a factor increases the area by the factor squared. With this tactic, RoF get 125% more area than PoS ...